Marc Faber’s Views on Investing Now
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The Dollar
Spring: Do you expect the greenback to continue losing value?
Faber: Over the next three to six months there is likely to be a dollar rally, ahead of news of favourable events such as an improvement in the
Over the longer term, all paper money will lose purchasing power, but Asian currencies less so than the US dollar.
Inflation
Spring: Almost all commentators argue that central banks’ money supply creation must eventually produce renewed inflation, which is why they are consistently negative about bonds. Is that realistic?
Globally, the imbalance between supply and demand puts downward pressure on prices, and that seems set to continue, given the vast new low-cost manufacturing capacity being created in
Faber: There is already plenty of inflation! You can see it in the prices of things like property, insurance, education, a lot of which doesn’t show up in the official consumer price indexes, where governments manipulate figures to keep them down.
Because of the highly leveraged financial markets, central banks will always accept inflation as the price of warding off any recession threat. The moment the banks see economic slowdown, they will stop their current tightening and revert to “printing” money.
You can be sure that in ten years’ time just about everything will cost more than it does now. The integration into the global economy of 3 billion people emerging from communism and socialism is producing demand pushing up the prices of many resources. Oil, for example, is four times more expensive than it was in 1998.
Although there will always be some pockets of falling prices, I don’t believe the world will see across-the-board deflation. Long bonds such as 30-year Treasuries may continue to rally for a while, but I don’t believe interest rates can stay this low, because they will have to react to higher visible inflation.
Within the next 20 years we could easily see annual inflation in the
US interest rates
Spring: Currently the financial markets are positioned to assume that the Fed will continue pushing up interest rates till its lending rate reaches about 5 per cent. Is that realistic, given the dangerous leveraging involved in the carry trade, and the Fed’s history of reacting nervously to any perceived threat by flooding the system with credit?
Faber: The Fed isn’t particularly smart, as it showed by creating the asset bubble.
Because the Fed currently – and erroneously – believes the
For the next few months bonds will continue to perform; but there are large downside risks in bonds. Rising short-term rates are good for bonds… and for the greenback. Dollar-denominated zero-coupon bonds are a buy. When policy changes, so will the dollar… and bonds.
There is a stronger case for owning euro-denominated long bonds. We’re not likely to see much inflation in
The problem with investment markets now is that there is no compelling buy – not stocks, not bonds, not real estate. It’s very hard to find anything with an upside potential of 500 per cent and a downside risk no more than 20 per cent. There’s so much money slushing around and being used by hedge funds, the trading departments of banks and other big speculators to chase up the prices of momentum plays.
Spring: Will the Chinese economy slow down, as is generally expected? Longer-term, will it continue to deliver the extraordinary growth rates we’ve seen in recent decades?
Faber: We have already seen a sharp slowdown in sectors such as automobiles, electricity and real estate. I am leaning towards the view that we’re going to see a hard landing in China. The capital investment binge has produced such overcapacities – in steel, for example, capacity has doubled over the past three years.
If interest rates continue to rise in the
However, industrial production continues to expand strongly. Even if economic growth continues at say 4 per cent, that will feel like recession.
Longer-term, say over the next ten years, I expect annual growth to continue to average between 6 and 8 per cent.
Investing in
Spring: How can international investors profit from the coming economic growth in
Faber. Unfortunately there is no correlation between economic growth and share prices. The environment for investors may not be all that good.
However, Asian currencies are no longer vulnerable as they were in 1997. Assets are undervalued relative to those of the
Even if there is a world recession, that won’t necessarily be bad for Asian manufacturers. A slump drives companies to look for cheaper sources of supply. It could lead to Asian exports increasing rather than decreasing.
Some argue that the recent strong rise in the Indian stock market has been overdone, but in dollar terms Indian equities are no higher than they were in 1994, and the political and economic environment is now much more attractive than it was then.
I am not keen on buying Indian shares now, but in five years’ time they will be higher. The market is currently trading on an earnings multiple of 13 times, which is OK.
In January we saw an interesting development in Asian stock markets, when they decoupled from the rest of the world’s. The reason is favourable macroeconomic conditions. Real estate and equity valuations are low to reasonable.
Look to the importance of improving domestic demand. In
In the short run, a “hard landing” could see some sales of Asian stocks by international investors. There is some froth in
There’s a downside risk of say 10 to 20 per cent in
There is some potential in
As you know, I argued in my book “Tomorrow’s Gold” that one of the best ways to invest in
In the short run rising commodity prices could be painful, but as additional output is encouraged, we could see oil fall back to perhaps $35 a barrel, and industrial metals retrench perhaps 30 to 40 per cent. At this stage opportunities look best in the soft commodities such as corn, wheat and soya beans.
Political risks
Spring: Are investors ignoring the political risks, with
Faber: Political tensions are not likely to lead to military confrontation.
The Chinese are being very smart with their “soft colonization” of the world through investment and building trade relationships – which will be followed by migration of Chinese businesses and people to other countries.
South America, and especially Africa, are a perfect economic fit with
Spring:
Faber: Although
Even with economic growth of only 1 per cent, there is a very favourable environment for financial assets.
Companies have moved much of their manufacturing to
Stocks are now relatively appealing. I would rather invest in a country with a good savings rate than in one making no savings at all!
The Japanese stock market capitalization has declined from 50 per cent of the world’s at its peak in 1989 to around 9 per cent now. That makes Japanese stocks attractive, and I expect them to outperform the
Gold
Spring: The recovery in the gold price in recent years has largely been a dollar phenomenon – I have described the yellow metal, at this stage, as being little more than an anti-dollar play. Do you agree?
Faber: In a world of inflated assets, gold is cheap relative to oil, the S&P500 and other assets. And with interest rates so low, the opportunity cost of holding gold is low. We are at the beginning of a long-term bull market in gold – and silver.
Spring: Given its over-regulated, over-taxed environment, with public opposition to reforms and increasing political stresses within the European Union, how can Europe hope to compete with Asia and the
Faber: The incorporation of the Central and East European nations into the
The living standards of Europeans are going to decline relative to those of Asians. A worker in Europe won’t be able to continue earning 20 times as much as one in Asia; an engineer five times as much as one in
The multinationals like NestlĂ© will continue to do OK, but worldwide they will face intensifying competition from the emerging “national champions” of
We are likely to see increasing polarization in the world between the rich and the middle classes – the latter have been the prime beneficiaries of asset inflation, especially in real estate. A newly rich class in Asia and
You will also see some movement of wealthier people from Europe to